Do More Things: Navigating Post-grad Opportunities for English Majors

by Valerie Walker
contributor to the Underground

“Do more things. Do different things,” Gabrielle Zenoni, the Canine Manager at the Animal Care League and one of the speakers at Tuesday’s career workshop “From Major to Minor,” reflected on what she’d tell her undergraduate self if she could go back in time.

Sitting in a lecture room with a couple dozen people, all fellow English majors, makes a person immediately introspective. Everyone in the room had heard the canned, “So you want to be a teacher?” question from puzzled friends and family, those trying to understand why we’d pick such an “unspecialized” field for our Future. The reigning feeling in the room was that even though English appeals to different personalities, it draws similar spirits.

Tuesday’s panel of professionals all had done something decidedly non-English with their degrees. It’s usually intimidating and weighty, other people’s success. However, throughout the first half hour, the panel detailed their unconventional career paths: Dean of Culture, Legislative Director, Public Relations Specialist, Research Associate, Canine Manager—not exactly typical English-major jobs. Finally, they started unraveling those “endless possibilities” we hear about but rarely see.

Each panel member revealed the key skills they gained from their English undergraduate that they regularly use in their current jobs, skills they think many English majors don’t even recognize they have. There were two major themes that cohesively ran through each person’s identified skills: communication and empathy. These skills were chiefly responsible for setting them apart from other job applicants in non-traditional career fields. For example, a market analyst from here at DePaul, Coleen Dickman, described her experience interviewing for her current position by explaining that the other candidates were techy, scientific, market-savvy, etc. What set her apart was her ability to construct coherent marketing materials, something she was prepared for through her English education.

Other candidates had similar stories, some even saying that employers are going to train their new employees regardless of their degree specialty, but they can’t train them in critical, empathetic, and basic grammatical skills. Gabrielle Zenoni said that her reading countless novels, writing from different perspectives, and critically working to understand other characters’ emotions through English study fostered her ability to empathize with people—and with animals. Even though she doesn’t do a lot of writing or “reading Dickens” in her current job as Canine Manager, she feels her background in English has given her skills pertinent to her job.

In a different reflection on the past, Annie Davis, a former teacher and current Director at the Education Pioneers in Chicago, expressed her regret over choosing to teach after college. She chose it because she loved literature, not because she loved teaching children. This example is pertinent even beyond those considering a career in education, and speaks to our desire to pursue something because it’s easy, expected, or conventional. The vein of this panel was to dispel the fear of pursuing niche jobs, the ones we don’t hear about at career fairs or on a Google search of “Top 10 Careers for English Majors.”

The last consensus among the panelists was on the subject of internships. They all agreed that they should have pursued internships that diverged from writing, publishing, education, etc. They encouraged the attendees to apply for internships (and jobs) that explicitly express interest in students with different majors: economics, marketing, biology. These positions will push English majors to sell themselves and the skills they’ve developed that wouldn’t be listed in a job posting. On the subject of internships, Professor Chris Green, who emails internship opportunities to English majors, shared that only around half of the posts get filled because students are afraid to apply, thinking they’re unqualified. He encouraged students, saying, “You shouldn’t feel bad if you don’t know what you want to do.”

That thought brought us full circle back to Gabrielle Zenoni’s “Do more things. Do different things.” Try an internship in an unconventional field, market your invaluable communication skills, and never forget the skills learned in an English major are preparation for niche careers with thousands of job titles never heard of that may be the perfect fit!

Career Panel for English Students

Curious about the current literary job market? Don’t miss this conversation with three publishing professionals on

Tuesday, November 1, 6:30-7:30 PM
Arts & Letters Hall, room 103

Snacks and drinks will be provided.

Panelists include:

ANNETTE HOBBS MAGIER
joined the team at Albert Whitman & Company in May 2014 after working for 5 years on the sales team at IPG, a Chicago-based distributor for independent publishers. Prior to IPG, she worked on retail and consumer marketing at Random House Children’s Books, focusing her efforts on branded properties such as Barbie, the Berenstain Bears, and Thomas the Tank Engine. She started her career in children’s book publishing in the subsidiary rights department at HarperCollins Children’s, where she closely managed the licensing of permissions and various rights for such classics as Goodnight Moon, Where the Wild Things Are, Little House on the Prairie, and the estate of Shel Silverstein. She has a bachelor’s degree in creative writing from DePaul University and is a graduate of the NYU Summer Publishing Institute.

NAOMI HUFFMAN
is a writer and editor whose interviews, book reviews, and essays have appeared in the Chicago Tribune, Newcity and Bookslut. She’s the editor-in-chief of Curbside Splendor and the managing editor of featherproof books. Naomi is the director of Book Fort, an organization that creates opportunities for independent presses to reach unique communities, and is the co-founder of two reading series, The Marrow and Lies! In 2017, Naomi will curate Printer’s Ball. She’s at work on a novella and a collection of short stories.

ABBY SAUL
has ten years of publishing experience as an editorial expert with a passion for fantastic reads. Abby founded The Lark Group after a decade in publishing at John Wiley & Sons, Sourcebooks, and Browne & Miller Literary Associates. She’s worked with and edited bestselling and award-winning authors as well as major brands. At each publishing group she’s been a part of, Abby also has helped to establish ebook standards, led company-wide forums to explore new digital possibilities for books, and created and managed numerous digital initiatives. A zealous reader who loves her iPad and the ebooks on it, she still can’t resist the lure of a print book. Abby’s personal library of beloved titles runs the gamut from literary newbies and classics, to cozy mysteries, to sappy women’s fiction, to dark and twisted thrillers. She’s looking for great and engrossing adult commercial and literary fiction. A magna cum laude graduate of Wellesley College, Abby spends her weekends—when she’s not reading—cooking and hiking with her husband. Find her @BookySaul on Twitter.

ASK Networking Event: Coffee & Chill on Tuesday, February 17th

The ASK (Alumni Sharing Knowledge) network at DePaul welcomes all LAS students to a social event called Coffee & Chill that will take place Wednesday, February 17th, in Arts & Letters Hall Rm 102. The ASK network is a great resource that makes alumni mentors available to students in order to share their experiences, career trajectories, and other useful knowledge. Speaking with people who have liberal arts degrees is a great way to understand the wealth of possibilities available to LAS students!

Coffee & Chill is a relaxed, casual event that is meant to help students become familiar with ASK and ASK mentors. There will be coffee and refreshments. All LAS students are welcome!

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